Robert Reed

Robert Reed

Prior to my life with Christ, I was headed in a destructive direction.  My life was consumed by addictions-specifically alcohol, marijuana and sex.  I had no identity apart from this.  I attended college as an animal science/wildlife major, but my main focus was to support my addictions.  This continued to be more apparent the longer I stayed in college, but my response was to ignore the problem and feed the addiction.  I had moved far away from whatever knowledge I had of God because I perceived that living right was the only way to reach Christ and I could not live up to that. 

After seven years in college and enslavement to my false self, God began to reveal himself to me in areas of my weakness that I was no longer able to mask over.  He led me to fellowship with other believers and to study Scripture. This began a transformation in my life that I had never imagined.  Within a few months I was miraculously free of the addictions and was discovering a new identity in Christ.  He quickly began to speak to my heart about working with people, and He was patient in walking me through my own struggles in this area.  A year and a half later He called me into counseling specifically and I followed.  This journey has been magnificent, and I could not imagine doing anything else. 

I am a licensed professional counselor.  I consider my efforts as a counselor inadequate apart from the grace and presence of our Lord Jesus Christ. I have been called into this ministry and I am blessed and humbled to go to work each day and see Christ working in people’s lives in a very intimate way.  I earned a master’s degree in Counseling Psychology at Southwestern Assemblies of God University in 2004.

I have maintained a private practice since 2007 in Stephenville, TX.  I have worked with both inpatient and outpatient facilities including Adapt of Texas, Counseling Center of Ellis County, Summer Sky Inc., and Christian Counseling Centers of Utah. At these facilities, I worked with severe mental illnesses (anxiety disorders, depression, bipolar, and schizophrenia), addictions (sexual, drug, alcohol, etc.), duel diagnoses, and also counseled with families of these individuals.  I currently work with individuals, families, and couples in broad range of interpersonal and psychological issues.  I work with the client to seek how God's unconditional love and His indisputable grace through Jesus Christ impacts their personal situation and their everyday life. 

I began counseling in Utah November 2011, just three months after the Lord placed on my heart and my wife’s heart that he was leading us to the Wasatch Valley area.  My special interests include spiritual/faith related issues, depression, anxiety, various addictions (including alcohol, substance and sexual,) dual diagnosis, lack of self-worth and legalism, struggles with anger and/or bitterness, post-traumatic stress disorder, bipolar, eating disorder, and life transition issues. General practice areas include adults and adolescents in individual, couple/marriage, LGBTQ affirming, and family counseling.

I have been blessed with a wonderful wife, since 2001, and a precious daughter, since 2007.  We are looking forward to many more years of life together.  We enjoy the outdoors including hiking, camping, fishing and archery-and we have been adding various winter sports to this list.


Maria Krzecka

My passion for ending suffering in the world began when I was a little girl and my dad read to me the story of “The Little Match Girl” by Hans Christian Andersen. I can still see my little hands reaching out to that little girl who was hungry, cold, and forgotten.  I have witnessed much suffering over the years which has deepened my desire to help others.  


I have worked with indigenous women in the jungles of Costa Rica and Guatemala, assisting them feed their children and empowering them through microloans. I have spent time on the streets of Birmingham helping the forgotten homeless, those suffering from AIDS, and drug addictions. I have helped young mothers find safe shelter. I have laughed with children and cried with those who had no one who cared for them. I still see their faces.


It is a privilege and joy to be invited to sit with you in your dark hour. Please take hope and know that “Weeping may terry for the night, but joy comes with the morning”- Psalm 30:5.

I was fortunate enough to be raised by two loving parents that put Jesus Christ first in their lives, and spent a lifetime serving Him. I excepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior at an early age and followed Christ well into my teenage years. As with many adolescences do, I myself began to drift away from my relationship with Jesus and follow worldly passions which led me down a path of destruction. I soon found myself addicted to chemicals.   At the age of twenty-three I knew my life was going nowhere and decided to join the U.S. Navy. My intention was that the military would provide enough discipline that I would clean my act up; however, during this time, a sailor’s thought process was if you work hard, you need to play hard and alcohol became my favorite extracurricular activity.


At the age of twenty-eight I began hearing God speaking to me, and I soon entered into recovery from alcohol. While at meetings I would here people speak about a higher power and how this higher power provided strength and a path to recovery. The only higher power that I ever knew was God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit, and I soon began praying again for the first time in many years. I wish I could say that I quickly turned my life around and began a close walk with God; however, it was a few years later that this happened. It wasn’t until I endured a divorce that I found myself in a church fully reaching out to the Father.

After about a year in recovery I had volunteered to serve as a Command Drug and Alcohol Advisor and served in this capacity for over fourteen years while in the military. During that time, I often wondered if this was a path that God had chosen for me, but it was not until after I retired from the military and was working as a substance abuse counselor that God’s calling became clear. I hesitated for a few years before deciding to complete a Bachelor of Science in psychology through the University of Phoenix, and immediately entering in the graduate program for clinical mental health counseling. I have been in school now for the last 6 years, and currently in the final year which is the process of completing an internship with Grace and Peace Christian Counseling (GPCC). I am humbled to be serving with Robert Reed at GPCC, since this is exactly the vision that God had laid upon my heart many years ago. 

I have 19 years’ experience working with people that suffer from a variety of addictions, and while working with this population I have encountered numerous people that were dually diagnosed; however, I have never until now been able to provide services for both diagnoses. While providing counseling I encourage the use of prayer, biblical scriptures, and inviting Christ into the process. In doing this I believe that true healing can happen.  

Since mental health counseling is a new arena for myself I am open to working with all patients that have the desire overcome mental health, behavior health, and spiritual health problems. I enjoy working with adolescences, adults, and couples. I believe that therapy is a learning process for both the client and the counselor and will dedicate myself to each and every person that I work with.

I am blessed to have a wonderful wife that dedicates her life to her first love, and that is Jesus Christ. I have 4 wonderful adult children and 3 grandchildren. I enjoy many outdoor activities; such as cycling, hiking, kayaking, fishing, and surfing when a trip to the beach is convenient. I am originally from Tennessee, but spent most of my childhood and adult life in San Diego California. I really believe that God has called me to Utah to serve Him in what He has been calling me to do for so long.


Steve Evans



Jared Taylor


Jared has a Masters in Social Work and is licensed in Utah as a Certified Social Worker (CSW).  Currently, he is pursuing a Doctor of Social Work with a specialization in Families and Interventions.  He primarily works with adolescents, adults, and couples.  His particular interest are in working with relationship issues (Couples Counseling), spiritual issues, depressive disorders, anxiety disorders, and some trauma disorders.  In the psychological methods Jared uses, he seeks to ensure Biblical congruence.  One thing he appreciates about Clinical Social work is the emphasis on Holism.  Thus, in his work with clients, he takes into account the biological, psychological, physical, and the spiritual.  Indeed, he sees addressing the spiritual as essential to addressing the whole person.  He is a bit existential and person centered in theoretical disposition, and this allows him to easily draw from other modalities that the client finds work best for them and maintain a foundational basis.  Among the approaches Jared uses are:


  • Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT)

  • Biblically Congruent Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT)

  • Person Centered Therapy

  • Gestalt Therapy

  • Biblically Congruent Mindfulness

  • Gottman Method Couples Therapy

  • Emotionally Focused Couples Therapy (EFT)

  • Psychodrama


Understanding that each person has a different background, he seeks to fit the treatment to the person.  The following is an example of the treatment process you will experience while working with Jared:

  1. Assessment Phase

  2. Building the Therapeutic Relationship, and Treatment Planning

  3. Intervention based on working towards mutually agreed goals and objectives

  4. Continuing Therapy till Goals are achieved and then Planning for Termination


“I believe there are common struggles that all people are faced with and must successfully confront to receive liberation from the ills of life.  Thus, as we work together, I will work on conversation and use techniques to help you in successfully confronting these struggles. Unlike some psychotherapist who will push a single method on you, I believe with the right environment a person is able, with the help of God, to discover the answers to the problems and challenges they face.  I will work to create that environment through existential discussion, acceptance of who you are and empathetic understanding.” Jared


 Short Spiritual Testimony


“I feel fortunate that I was raised in a Christian home.  This set the foundation for much that has guided my life.  It was at the age of three that I said the sinner’s prayer and made a verbal commitment to Christ.  However, it was not until adolescence that I sought the purpose of life through the exploration of various world religions, one which was Christianity.  It was in reading the four gospels multiple times that I became convicted of my ways.  Like the Apostle Paul, my sin became exceedingly sinful.  I then had to trust that Christ’s payment on the cross was sufficient for my sin.  My life was forever changed as I became a new creation.” Jared


Additional Bio

As a young adult, Jared considered pursuit of full-time ministry as a missionary.  In fact, he lived with a missionary family for a year in the democratic republic of Congo and loved it.  Once he saved enough money, working as a certified nursing assistant (CNA) in Utah, he went to Bible school in Minnesota.  Some events happened, and he eventually found himself as a traveling project manager where he shared the gospel across the United States.  With the recession, his job slowed greatly.  This led him to join the United States Army.  Indeed, he served a little over a half decade in the Army as a Rescue Technician and a Human Resource Manager.  He was a top graduate of the NCO Academy and was a commandant’s list recipient.  He has board certifications from the National Fire Protection Agency in everything from Hazmat at the Operations level to Rope Rescue.


Just after discharge from the Army, he completed a Bachelor of Science in Psychology and Christian Counseling from Liberty University graduating Suma Cum Laude.  With careful consideration, he then decided to pursue a Masters in Clinical Social Work with Walden University and graduated in 2018 with a 4.0.  He is now pursuing a Doctorate in Social Work.  Up until coming on as a therapist with Grace and Peace Christian Counseling, his previous experience in mental health was working on the national suicide hotline as a volunteer, a veteran’s behavioral health center as a Graduate Intern case manager/counselor and at a Christian Counseling Center in Utah as a Graduate Intern Therapist.  He holds membership in the psychology Psi Chi (ΨΧ) Honor Society and the social work Phi Alpha (ΦΑ) Honor Society.  He is also a member of the National Association of Christian Counselors, the National Association of Social Workers and the Golden Key International Honor Society.  Jared is the father of four girls and his happily married to his wife, Rachel. 

Additional Professional Trainings:


Psychodrama Training (81 CE hrs.) under Rob Pramann, Ph.D., ABPP, TEP.

  • Starting and Stopping in Psychodrama: Warming Up and Sharing. Aug 2018

  • Addressing the Elephant in the Room (3 CE hrs.). May 2018

  • Conducting a Psychodramatic Dream Exploration. May 2018

  • Psychodramatic Roles: The Double and Doubling. Apr 2018

  • Psychodramatic Roles: The Auxiliary Ego and Role Playing. Mar 2018

  • Bibliodrama: Psychodrama & the Sacred. Feb 2018

  • Hypnodrama and Psychodrama. Nov 2017

  • United We Stand, Divided We Fall: Reconciling Groups and Nations. Oct 2017

  • Addressing the Trauma and Pain of Victims and Perpetrators. Sept 2017

  • Standing Back to See Up Close. Nov 2016

  • The Courage to Dream Again. May 2016

  • Touching the Heart: Developing Deep Empathy. Apr 2016

  • Psychodrama Short and Simple: Role Reversal and the Auxiliary. Mar 2016

  • Psychodrama: Psychotherapy to Go. Feb 2016


Gottman Institute

  • Gottman Method Couples Therapy: Level 1 Bridging the Couple Chasm.…July 2018

  • Gottman Method Couples Therapy: Level 2 Assessment, Intervention, and comorbidities.  Present



  • Mindfulness Certificate Course: 2-Day Intensive Training (12.5 CE hrs.) under Terry Fralich, LCPC.  October 2018

  • Treating Insomnia: Evidence-Based Strategies to Help Your Clients Sleep (6.25 CE hrs.) under Margaret M. Danforth, PH.D., CBSM.  Aug 2018

  • Legal and Ethical Issues with Technology in Mental Health (6.25 CE hrs.) under
    Joni Gilbertson, MA, NCC, LCPC.  SLC, UT.  Jul 2018

  • Autism Meltdowns in Children and Adolescents: Practical Strategies for Prevention, Intervention, and Postvention (6.25 CE hrs.) under Kathy Morris, M.ED., B.S. SLC, UT.  Jun 2018

  • Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) Certificate Course; 2-Day Intensive Training (12.5 CE hrs.) under Amy Tibbitts, LSCSW, LCSW.  SLC, UT.  Jun 2018

  • Nutritional and Integrative Interventions for Mental Health Disorders: Non-Pharmaceutical Interventions for Depression, Anxiety, Bipolar & ADHD (6.25 CE hrs.) under Anne Procyk, ND.  SLC, UT.  April 2018

  • Trauma Competency Conference: The Core Competencies and Treatment Strategies for Trauma, PTSD, Grief, and Loss (12 CE hrs.) under Eric Gentry, Ph.D., LMHC.  SLC, UT.  Dec 2017

Living Works

  • Applied Suicide Intervention Skills Training.  Oct 2016

American Association of Christian Counselors (Light University)

  • Caring for Kid's God's Way. May 2015

    • Unit 1: Understanding Teens and Their World

    • Unit 2: Faith and Life

    • Unit 3: Love, Sex, and Relationships

    • Unit 4: Teens in Crisis

    • Unit 5: Challenging Issues

  • Healthy Sexuality. May 2014​​

    • Unit 1: Sexual Foundations

    • Unit 2: Sexual Enrichment

    • Unit 3: Sexual Challenges

    • Unit 4: Sexual Brokenness

    • Unit 5: Controversial Issues

  • Marriage Works. July 201

    • Unit 1: Core Issues

    • Unit 2: Enrichment Issues

    • Unit 3: Challenging Issues I

    • Unit 4: Challenging Issues II

    • Unit 5: Intervention and Policy Issues

  • Caring for People God's Way. December 2013

    • Unit 1: Introduction to Biblical Counseling

    • Unit 2: Faith and Life

    • Unit 3: Marriage and Family

    • Unit 4: Challenging Issues In Biblical Counseling

    • Unit 5: Emerging Issues in Biblical Counseling

  • Breaking Free. December 2013

    • Unit 1: Foundations of Spiritual Care, Discipleship, and Godly Living

    • Unit 2: Helping Process, Skills, and Working with Tough Cases

    • Unit 3: Applications in Mood Change, Medicine, and Addictions

    • Unit 4: Applications in Crisis Care and Relationships

    • Unit 5: The Ethics of Care and Helping Ministry in the Church

National Board of Fire Services Pro Board Certifications (Certifying Agency: Florida Bureau of Fire Standards and Training) 2011

  • Confined Space Technical Rescue I

  • Confined Space Technical Rescue II 

  • Hazardous Materials First Responder at the Awareness Level

  • Hazardous Materials First Responder at the Operations Level with Product Control Mission Specific Competency

  • Rope Technical Rescuer I

  • Rope Technical Rescuer II

  • Structural Collapse Technician Rescuer I

  • Structural Collapse Technician Rescuer II

  • Trench Technical Rescuer I    

  • Trench Technical Rescuer II  

  • Vehicle and Machinery Technician Rescuer I

  • Vehicle and Machinery Technician Rescuer II

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Charles R. Smith


Growing up through the 60’s and 70’s in a career military family, I experienced moving around the country multiple times and with each move, the experience quickly and naturally taught me to remain detached from others and avoid becoming dependent on anyone. This type of self-reliance rapidly discourages deep, intimate and honest relationships because every move or loss of friends brought with it pain. Being truthful and trusting others became confusing and brought the mistaken understanding of what relationships meant. Truth in my personal life seemed relative depending on the circumstances and I found it impossible to form healthy relationships.


It took years as an adult for me to realize that my experiences and false beliefs taught me to harbor the shame of sexual molestation as a child warping any ability to be truthful with others, God or myself. Very few people knew of my experiences or struggles and because I did not understand that the motivation for my choices in life were rooted in shame and detachment, no one else could understand my choices either. My distorted sense of shame kept me from realizing the damage I would perpetuate within my own life and those around me. After years of chasing the wrong solutions to the emptiness inside, God broke through my self-deception and lies allowing me to experience God’s love and forgiveness as well as becoming honest with myself and others. I continue to grow daily in my understanding of love and intimacy that is not defined or measured by sex. 


God is persistent in calling to us because God values us and wants a deep, intimate relationship wherein we find our life of purpose and meaning (1 Jn 4:16) in relationship to Jesus. We are all broken in some fashion and God showed me that my brokenness does not disqualify me from ministry but rather has equipped me by using my experiences and heartbreak as a basis wherein I can relate to pain and trauma within others.


From 1978 to 1981 I attended Weber State College where I met the woman, I would eventually marry in 1983 after joining the US Air Force. Between 1983 and 1987, I served as an enlisted airman in the USAF, both stateside and in England. In 1987, our daughter was born at RAF Upper Heyford, in England and shortly afterward completed my tour of duty, receiving an honorable discharge. We returned to Utah where I completed a Bachelor of Science in Law Enforcement at Weber State with the hope of pursuing a career in Law Enforcement.


We moved to Washington State, where I served with the City of Kent Police Department from 1989 through 1994. I left the career field after sustaining an on-duty injury spinal injury that prevented me from continuing a career in LE. However, law enforcement, first responders and military members and their families remain close to my heart.


From 1994 through 2001, I worked various positions across the country trying to reconcile my inner spiritual struggles before settling into graduate studies at St. Mary’s University in San Antonio, TX in 2001. By 2004, I earned two Master of Arts degrees, one in Community Counseling and the second in Pastoral Ministry. From 2004 through 2007 I helped put together a consortium of 5 United Methodist Churches in northern Bexar County providing low and no cost counseling to church members of those 5 congregations as well as working for a company providing in-home counseling to families in CPS reunification programs. My first glimpse of understanding God’s love and forgiveness began at St. Mary’s in Texas.


2007 saw us move back to Washington State, after being recruited by Kitsap Mental Health Services in Bremerton Washington in the position of DMHP (Designated Mental Health Professional) wherein I responded to hospital emergency rooms and in the local community with police at their request to conduct assessments and crisis interventions with suicidal persons. By late 2008, for several reasons, many I recognize as my own doing, my marriage ended in divorce.


After our divorce, I moved to Forks, Washington in 2009 to fill the role of primary intake and assessment specialist conducting biopsychosocial assessments for diagnosis and treatment planning for West End Services in Forks, WA filling that role from 2009- early 2011. This position provided a unique opportunity and privilege of working with local tribal members at Neah Bay on the Makah Reservation and Quileute tribal members in La Push.


In 2010, during a visit to my parents in Utah, I realized the magnitude of my parent’s health issues and made the decision to move back to Utah to assist my parents through their health care in early 2011. Upon my return, I worked briefly worked as a mental health therapist for a year at a local correctional department before beginning work as a contractor on Hill AFB with military families in 2012. In July 2013, I married my current wife and by October had transitioned to a different contractor’s position at HAFB as a ¾-time counselor the FOH-EAP program working with federal civilians and their households. Shortly after transitioning into my current position at HAFB, I became aware of a growing internal desire to minister to others helping them reconcile their emotional and spiritual pain by recognizing God’s desire for relationship through forgiveness and inner healing. I am honored to be given an opportunity to join Grace & Peace Christian Counseling in 2019 in a part-time capacity.


Hello! I am Alexandra Seng and am licensed as an associate clinical mental health counselor. I graduated with my masters in licensed professional counseling in May 2019 with Liberty University Online. Liberty University is a school based out of Lynchburg, VA. The program that I was enrolled in has a emphasis on both Christian and secular counseling, which I feel fortunate to have been a part of.  The program provided me with an integrated Christian and secular approach, which has been beneficial in serving and helping individuals with different worldviews and preferences on faith, spirituality, religion, agnosticism, and atheism.


My BA in psychology with the emphasis in addictions and recovery, I also received with Liberty University online. As I was enrolled in this program I discovered an interest in healthy sexuality and sexual addictions. This motivated me to pursue classes on this topic for both my undergraduate and graduate degrees. It is my hope to further my training within the next year, to become certified as a sex therapist. I know that God has put this topic and specialty on my heart due to this being an under-served need in our society.


Over the past year, I had the privilege to work with domestic violence, couples, substance use, mental health, and co-morbid diagnoses. I am certified as a domestic violence counselor and have been for the past one and a half years. Training's that have helped me hone and develop my therapy skills involved motivational interviewing, personality disorders, acceptance and commitment therapy, Seeking Safety, suicide assessment and prevention, and couples counseling. My theoretical orientation is eclectic, and I believe in serving my clients in a therapeutic manner that is adapted and unique to them as an individual. I have experience in using  a plethora of therapy skills, drawing from cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), dialectal behavioral therapy (DBT), mindful-based cognitive behavioral therapy (MBCT),  trauma-informed care, and acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT). My personal favorites are ACT, trauma-informed  and person-centered therapy styles.


Prior to starting my journey as a therapist, I cooked professionally for a living. I received an associates in culinary arts from Le Cordon Bleu, Las Vegas, NV. I have a passion for a cooking and this led me to work in the hospitality and culinary industry. At first I thought that it would be part of my life's work to go back to school as a nutritionist and dietitian but God had other plans in mind to be a therapist. Although, I do not cook professionally anymore for a living, it continues to be my favorite past-time. In addition to cooking I have a knack for poetry and writing, documentaries,  as well as for worship and praise music. These are essential to my self-care!


A little bit of background from my personal history, aside from academia and jobs, I was a military brat that lived overseas. I was born and raised in Europe, having spend most of  my teenage and childhood years in Germany. I learned the German language and was raised in the culture. Other countries I lived in were the UK, and Okinawa, Japan. When I was 17 years old I moved to the United States. It was a big culture shock from the small country I grew up in! Over the past 12 years of living in the United States I have acclimatized well and do feel at home!


Lastly, on a more important note, I have a love for God and His purpose for my life. I became a Christian nine years ago, and life has not been the same since. For many years I struggled with meaning and purpose, and tried to find what could provide that for me. I suffered from my own codependency, unhealthy sexuality, intimate partner violence, and mental health diagnoses. It really seemed like I had to hit 'rock bottom' to recognize I am nothing without God. After many years of having an existential crisis, where life felt worthless, I gave my life to Christ.


Life is not necessarily easier but it is more meaningful and fulfilling. I have learned, from my own trauma, that I can welcome and embrace pain because this is what makes me human, and allows me to understand others' pain. As mentioned before, God has put on my heart survivors and perpetrators of domestic violence, trauma, and sexual addictions/problems. He has led me through my own process of healing and revival where I want to be that inspiration for others and to be that support; it is me wanting to give to others what others and God have given to me. I thank God for all my experiences, and know the plans he has for me.


"For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future (Jeremiah 29:11, NIV)."

Alex Seng

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“The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases, his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. ‘The Lord is my portion,’ says my soul, ‘therefore I will hope in Him.” –Lamentations 3:22-23 NRSV

God has been leading me on a journey of discovering my own belovedness in his eyes, and that has allowed me to see the beauty and loveliness in others. It is my privilege to sit with people in their difficult moments and to hold their stories; to be a witness to the work of healing that takes place in the counseling relationship. I believe the healing journey is a sacred space and am honored to journey with fellow travelers along the way.

I have a bachelor’s degree in ministry and spent several years focused on discipleship and leadership development within the church. I am currently a graduate student intern at Grand Canyon University. I have spent several years mentoring youth and women within the church and working with women and their families as they navigate pregnancy concerns. I work with adults, adolescents, and couples, with a specific interest in spiritual abuse and trauma.

Nicole Alder
Counseling Student Intern

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Daisy has a broad knowledge of mental health issues from experience, research and application.  Her background includes the study of general psychology and the neuroscience underlying mental health disorders.  In her career, she has worked with substance abuse, sexual assault, physical assault victims and perpetrators, mood disorders, impulse control and obsessive behavioral disorders, psychosis, relationship and sexual orientation issues, relationship struggles, couples, families, and personality disorders.  From her work in these areas, she has seen the damage that emotional neglect, abuse and trauma can cause an individual over a lifetime if left untreated.  Thankfully, from all this experience, she has also seen the healing power of effective treatment and the power of God’s grace to heal.


Daisy utilizes a somewhat eclectic style of counseling, relying heavily on cognitive-based styles but also borrowing from existential and person-centered theories.  All theoretical direction she uses is evidence-based, with a heavy reliance on understanding the etiology of disorders for diagnosis.  In sessions, a primary focus is placed on a respect for the client’s dignity, autonomy, and on the counselor’s responsibility of unconditional acceptance, empathy, and collaboration.  


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